Thu, 14 Aug 1997 12:19:34 +0000 (GMT)
> I see that Sun is pushing Tcl as a glue language for Java
> and is in the process of developing a Tcl-Java interface:
> I'm thinking about how Perl would fit into this effort. For example,
> would Perl interface with Java via a Perl-Tcl interface or would there
> be a separate and potentially competing (and potentially redundant)
> Perl-Java interface? Could the coupling of Tcl and Java lead to the
> demise of Perl, as Java gains popularity? It would be hard to compete
Demise of Perl ?? The Perl community is just too big for that :
* E.g. A ``Java-enhanced Perl compiler, written by Larry Wall'',
(``... the compiler is supposed to be able to compile a perl program into a
.class file that will work on the JVM! A pretty impressive trick.
I think more will be unveiled at the Perl conference.''
-- From: O'Reilly Book Support <firstname.lastname@example.org>; search www.dejanews.com
for ``java and perl together''.
* E.g. ``A Java Front End to Perl CGI'':
``At the National Human Genome Research Institute, we have written a
number of applications using a combined Java/Perl architecture. ''
* E.g. ``Perl Hosted on Java'':
``This talk features work that embeds perl into the Java Virtual Machine,
which then allows programmers to use perl parasitically using Java as the
* I'm sure there's more !
Nevertheless, if Sun pushes Tcl with all its market power,
Perl/Bioperl needs to be very attractive if it doesn't want to be confined
to a niche. It needs to offer a very good solution for much-needed tasks,
and be maximally compatible w/ the other tools ppl use -- no matter whether
we like them or not.
(This is just my personal opinion; do the others feel the same ?)
Most importantly, we need to offer stable+useful+reliable code by the
end of the year at the latest.
> against Perl for CGI scripting, but perhaps Tcl would provide a better
> Java glue, given the work that Sun is doing.
> Here is a blurb from the above cupojoe page:
> "...Sun is dedicated to making Tcl the
> Internet's preeminent scripting language by
> providing access from Tcl to JavaBeans(tm)
> and Java(tm) applications. That means that
> Tcl will provide an easy method for rapidly
> developing new Java applications. Tcl will
> provide the "glue" to pull together one or more Java
> components, in much the same way that
> Visual Basic can be used to pull together
> Visual Basic Extension (VBX) components
> that are written in C or C++. Java will be
> used for building new primitives while Tcl/Tk
> will be used for hooking them together into
> Other relevant links (currently accessible from the above page):
> Tcl-Java : http://www.sunlabs.com/~kcorey/tcljava/
> Tcl/Tk Home: http://sunscript.sun.com/
> Perl Versus: http://www.perl.com/perl/everything_to_know/versus/