[Bioperl-l] reading and writing GFF3

Hilmar Lapp hlapp at gmx.net
Sat Jun 17 12:20:08 EDT 2006

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You don't need a new method for this. Instead, support a -feature  

	my $bsfa = Bio::SeqFeature::Annotated->new(-feature => $feature);

This should work for any instance of Bio::SeqFeatureI. If it is a  
B::SF::Annotated already it is obviously just a deep copy (if copy is  
desired - could be another parameter). Otherwise more will be involved.

Alternatively, and possibly better, is to write a specialized  
SeqFeatureI factory (that would implement  
Bio::Factory::ObjectFactoryI) and then delegate this job to it:

	my $feat_factory = Bio::SeqFeature::TypedFeatureFactory->new(
		-type_ontology => $sequence_ontology,
		-source_ontology => $feature_source_ontology,
		-unflatten => 1);
	my $bsfa = $feat_factory->create_object({-feature => $feature});

This is preferable because it separates business logic that isn't  
necessarily related into defined units. I.e., the logic necessary to  
convert an ordinary feature into a strongly typed one is different  
from how to represent a strongly typed feature. IMHO anyway ...

Also, don't dismiss the Bio::SeqFeature::TypedSeqFeatureI that Ewan  
started as the result of a discussion thread earlier this (or last?)  
year. Bio::SeqFeature::Annotated as such may as well be obsoleted,  
though not in concept.

Maybe we need to get together again and thrash out a strategy; or a  
BOF at the GMOD meeting? I feel this does need a core group of people  
who care, hash out a strategy that will also solve the backwards  
compatibility problem with the current Bio::SeqFeatureI state-of- 
limbo, and allow us to implement the decisions with a few people in a  
concentrated effort. This will then also remove the only real large  
stumbling block towards a 1.6 release.

Maybe we should think about a little pre-GMOD hackathon to clear up  
this mess? Scott, you'll be there a day early? I'll be already back  
and Jason I believe will still be in town, although he may have other  
commitments already. Nonetheless, it shouldn't really take that much  
but rather dedicated time, a whiteboard, and a few people who care  
thrashing this out and then do it.



On Jun 16, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Scott Cain wrote:

> Rob,
> I came to the same conclusion as well; I wrote my response as I was
> heading out the door and while I was running errands, I realized the
> right thing to do is to write a Bio::SeqFeature::Annotated method  
> called
> new_from_object, whose usage would be:
>   my $my_BSFA = Bio::SeqFeature::Annotated->new_from_object 
> ($my_BSFI, %args);
> where you would give it a Bio::SeqFeatureI compliant object and try to
> create a BSFA like use suggested below.  You could allow passing in  
> args
> to control how different things are handled, like mapping non-SO types
> to SO types.  I'll think about this over the weekend and let you  
> know if
> brilliance strikes me.
> Scott
> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 13:31 -0700, Robert Buels wrote:
>> Rather than cobble together some ad-hoc solution, I would be  
>> interested
>> in working on a good solution to this problem, because it seems like
>> it's just going to get more common as more people start wanting to  
>> write
>> GFF3.  What about some code in whatever customarily makes these  
>> objects
>> (probably BSF::Annotated's new() method?) that could take another  
>> type
>> of Feature object and attempt to shoehorn its data into a new
>> BSF::Annotated?  If it failed (because the type isn't in SO or
>> whatever), it could throw() some informative error message.
>> Then, people could write straightforward code something like:
>> while(my $oldstylefeature = $features_in->next_feature) {
>>     $oldstylefeature->primary_tag('something_that_is_in_so');
>>     $oldstylefeature->something_else('some other something that  
>> needs to
>> be changed for compliance');
>>     my $newfeature = Bio::SeqFeature::Annotated->new 
>> ($oldstylefeature);
>>     $gff3_out->write_feature($newfeature);
>> }
>> Does that sound like a good idea?  I'd be more than willing to  
>> implement
>> this, since I'm going to need to do this sort of thing with many more
>> things than just RepeatMasker.
>> Rob
>> Scott Cain wrote:
>>> Um, yeah, good question.  The reason I didn't answer you when you  
>>> wrote
>>> before is that I was hoping for divine inspiration for an answer  
>>> (or for
>>> somebody else to answer, which would have been really great :-)
>>> The short answer (and easy one for me to type) is that you will  
>>> probably
>>> need an ad hoc method to do it, which is the same thing I do when  
>>> I need
>>> to convert gff2 to gff3, to make sure the things I need mapped get
>>> mapped the 'right' way (that is, the way I want them to go).  I  
>>> don't
>>> have any sample code that does this, but if you want to start  
>>> working up
>>> an ad hoc method, I will certainly try to help you as much as I can.
>>> Scott
>>> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 12:34 -0700, Robert Buels wrote:
>>>> So about that converting ye olde feature objects into
>>>> Bio::SeqFeature::Annotated objects.  How do I do it?
>>>> Scott Cain wrote:
>>>>> That's OK--You added a few items that should be escaped that  
>>>>> weren't, so
>>>>> I added those too.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 12:30 -0700, Robert Buels wrote:
>>>>>> Woops, I should have said something about that.  I submitted  
>>>>>> it before
>>>>>> I saw that Scott had already done the escaping in CVS.
>>>>>> Chris Fields wrote:
>>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>> Looks like Robert also submitted a bug report related to this  
>>>>>>> as well=
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