[Bioperl-l] bioperl-dev or branch?
hlapp at gmx.net
Thu May 21 17:00:46 EDT 2009
To quote from the thread:
"The idea behind bioperl-dev, as I understand from Chris, is to
provide a sort of sandbox for experimental code. Adventuresome users
should feel free to play with the code there, but not expect much in
the way of support, bug fixes, and the like. There be dragons there.
When a bioperl-dev module graduates to the core, then the usual
support mechanisms kick in."
I.e., there is a possibility, but no expectation to graduate to core.
I think that's important.
My sense is that we all agree that we don't want to abandon svn
branches (or do we?). To I'll state the question again: what
disqualifies a development project from going into the main trunk
(thanks to Sendu for keeping this on the table), and what disqualifies
it from going onto a branch, with the remaining resort being bioperl-
I'm worried about fragmentation here - historically we've been a crowd
that has been rather inviting of new contributions into the main code
base and tolerant of those additions needing time to mature, and we
have been lazy on committing on behalf of other people (which merging
patches, branches, and separate repositories on behalf of someone else
is) and hence liberal in giving out commit access, and commit to main
On May 21, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Mark A. Jensen wrote:
> These are key points. I do believe (and think in these terms) that
> bioperl-dev modules are intended for the trunk, as soon as they are
> not so broken as to be testable by users. (my interp). See this
> thread to refresh memory: http://lists.open-bio.org/pipermail/bioperl-l/2009-March/029661.html
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilmar Lapp" <hlapp at duke.edu>
> To: "Chase Miller" <chmille4 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "BioPerl List" <bioperl-l at lists.open-bio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bioperl-l] bioperl-dev or branch?
>> Moving this question to the BioPerl list, which is where we need
>> to discuss this I think. Can someone refresh my memory on what
>> the Bioperl-dev repository is or was meant for? It doesn't seem
>> documented on the wiki.
>> My (admittedly vague) recollection is that bioperl-dev is
>> basically for highly experimental changes or functionality.
>> I'm not clear why everything else shouldn't go either into the
>> main trunk or into a branch. If there is a realistic expectation
>> for something to be folded into the main trunk sooner or later,
>> what would be the reasons for not putting it into a branch of the
>> main repository? If we are putting it into a separate repository,
>> we're waiving a lot of svn's support for merging and resolving
>> concurrent edits.
>> I would also go actually go a step further and suggest that even
>> if this GSoC project starts out on a branch (which I can see good
>> reasons for, such as eliminating fear to disrupt something), there
>> should be a plan to move to main trunk before the end of the
>> project. We've had a good tradition in BioPerl of developing
>> directly on the main trunk. It sometimes leads to occasional
>> disruptions when lots of tests seem failing, but it also
>> encourages development discipline and make new code to melt into
>> the BioPerl code base without requiring any extra steps by someone.
>> Any and all thoughts or comments welcome and appreciated!
>> On May 21, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Chase Miller wrote:
>>> This brings me to a question about where I should have my code
>>> repository. Originally, I was going to use Bioperl-dev, but it
>>> was brought to my attention that that repository does not
>>> normally receive daily updates and it might not be the right
>>> place for my day to day development. An alternative would be to
>>> use something like google code on a daily basis and commit to
>>> Bioperl-dev on a weekly basis.
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